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Tech Tips for December 2007

Subject: XC 1045/Z800 series - Light copy one side.

Question: I changed the T/D unit, Exposure lamp, the drum unit and cleaned the optics. I believe you can see the light copy on one side when I use reduction also. Copy on glass or SPF, same thing. I am looking around for a T/S corona that I have around here somewhere. Any other suggestions?  Thanks.

Answer:  You can completely disassemble that Trxfer unit, clean it thoroughly, restring it, and then your problems should go away. Of course, swapping it out would be easier, but if you can't find it, don't waste too much time because I rarely have to replace those units. Just clean them real good and restring. That does sound like the root of your problems though. Good luck

Answer:  Also, check the laser unit. I had one that was very dirty and made everything look faded and uneven.

Answer:  I don't think this machine has a laser unit, only mirrors and lenses. Let me know if I am mistaken.

Answer:  No you are right, just clean and restring the wire (T/S corona).

Question:  I took a look at the machine again. I ran and stopped the machine and looked at a black image on the drum, but the front side is still light.
So transfer corona is not going to help.
 

Answer:  Based on your last post, I would look at the main charge wire and grid. Also, check the optics to see if one of the mirrors is loose or the carriage is bent; that would cause this to occur.

Answer: Uhm...your test is inconclusive. The HVT is powering 3 things: DV bias, Txfer, and Primary Charge. If you have a drainage coming from an arcing Txfer, it will affect bias and primary charge. I've seen it too many times, and it's not that big of a step. The worst case scenario prevents a very common issue in the near future but still requires you to replace the toner cartridge…Fix the Txfer first.  

Answer:  I looked back and you have already replaced the toner and drum so that eliminates the primary (assuming you did replace it as a unit) and the toner. Your problem is still most likely the transfer but just as an off-the-wall what if...does your copy come out clear if you press on the top of the machine while making your test? Check the clamshell latches for cracks. Good luck!

Subject: Kyocera km 4035 c3200 error

Question: I have the above error and need to repair it. Help!

Answer:  This code is for a blown or defective exposure lamp.

Answer:  P.S. we have had many of these in field for a long time and never had a exposure lamp problem, but the front door interlocks. There are 2 of them and this can cause strange codes ... just a thought.

Answer:  I think this code pops up if you move the scanner out of home position to clean the optics and then power it up without returning it to home position. If you cycle the power a couple times, it goes away as it was caused by an oversight...If this is the case, you are in luck

Answer:  I had the same problem; I replaced the ISU and the problem was gone.

Subject: KM5050 error C6400

Question: Can someone help us regarding our problem? The engine and power supply have been changed, but we cannot enter to a simulation. Whenever the button had been pressed, a beep sound is heard. We tried opening the door while entering simulation, and when this failed, we interchanged the AC line and neutral. We still have not succeeded.

Answer:  Try SIM 163 to reset that code

Answer:  I had a 5035 do similar antics. It had an error code; don't remember what. We could go into simulation, but could not do some of them and could not go to the second level, like to test things. Machine had a blown fuser thermofuse the day before that. We unplugged the machine and plugged it back in, and it worked fine, all sims worked ok. A friend who knows them told me to replace the charge corona (which only had about 100k on it.) I did and had no more problems. So, maybe unplug and plug the machine, replace the charge corona,  and keep your fingers crossed.

Question: I cannot enter simulation mode. I replaced the fuser and transferred the power supply and engine PCB to a working machine to check if the circuit was faulty. it was doing fine in the working machine, no error at all. I will try corona replacement and let you know.  Thanks a lot.

Answer:  This model has a specific way to enter the simulation mode. You must do so after pressing the "status/job cancel" key. Could that be the difficulty in entering simulation mode?

Question: Yes, I've tried many combinations to enter simulation but failed to do so. I also pressed that button followed by 10871087 but to no avail. I then tried to open and close the door, which also failed. Kyocera also failed to give me the right answer to this problem. Maybe some guys out there who encountered this problem can help me.  Thanks to everyone

Answer:  I know this is a basic sounding question, but have you flashed the firmware yet? It sounds as if you have done all the other steps. But the new boards might have been on the shelf long enough to have the old firmware onboard.

Question: Yes I did, that was the first thing I did before doing anything. Most of our problem had been solved by upgrading firmware. But this time it doesn't work. I also checked wire-to-wire continuity.

Answer:  After reading all that you have done and looking at the service manual, this is a rat’s nest of a problem. All the boards work in a different machine. Fuser works in the other machine so the only thing left is the wiring harness which you checked. I only offered the firmware suggestion because it might have been overlooked. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Answer:  We had a similar case.  Go into the system menu then go into copy settings. Check the preset limit number.  If it is set to 1, the keypad will not recognize any higher keys and it will give a long beep as a warning.

 Tech Tips for November 2007

Subject: Minolta DI 850

Question: I just did a general cleaning on a DI 850, and when I was cleaning the charge corona unit, it popped a code out of the blue. I believe it was a c24 or 26, but I didn’t pay much attention. I thought that if I caused it to reset, then I would be good. I put the machine back together, reset the code, and now my copies look like a mix between bad charge and a bad drum blade—the copies are faint with streaks. Any ideas? Also, how do you get to the tech mode on these? Thanks

Answer:  Utility, Details, Stop, 0, 0, Stop, 0, 1. But if it was fine before you cleaned the charge corona, the problem is in the charge corona. Grid backwards, wires not strung properly, etc...

Answer:  I just went through this same thing with a di-750. I went there to just give it a general cleaning and ended up with the same symptoms you described. The copies were not that bad before I worked on it. All I did was slide the drum unit out and cleaned some loose toner, etc. It was close to pm so I went back with a new drum, starter, corona wires, and blades. I still did it after pm, and ended up changing the whole drum housing to correct the problem. I was lucky that a friend works for a Minolta dealer and I was able to get that whole assy to swap out. I still do not really know what it was but I suspect that it had something to do with the bias or ground.

Question: Thanks. That will get me in to see the list of codes and their counts. Hopefully someone had reset them. And Frank, did you replace the cl unit, drum, and dv unit with different ones other than the ones you used for the pm, or was it just the cradle?

Answer:  To get to the service mode on these, hold the utility key until the screen changes back to the main screen, and then enter 9271 start key. This gets you all the modes at one time, or you can do it one at a time 25, 35 47. Hold down one set then turn machine on in the first way I described until it is better. Then you can go to main screen with utility and clear at the same time

Answer:  I used just the cradle and put all the new pm items into the cradle that my friend got from his bone yard.

Answer:  Isn’t it 9272?

Question: Thanks for the replies. Went back today and removed everything including the cradle, gave a good cleaning on the bias and corona contacts, and one more once-over. Bingo, everything came back, and now I just need to replace the corona wires. There are still black streaks the more you copy, and there was no detail soft key after utility, but I am going to try the other suggestions. I did order a DI 850 CD manual. I only have one in the field, and it is temperamental and knows how to push my buttons. Thanks again.

Answer:  My typo— 9272.  I’m getting old

Answer:  When you keep holding the meter / utility key down, the screen will go back to user screen. Then look at the top left of the screen where it says enter password. Enter 9272 and press start.

Answer:  9272 is easy to remember if you think of a Xmas tree shape.

Subject: Pitney Bowes dl250

Question: How do you enter tech mode on a dl250? It’s the same as a Panasonic fpd250. I am rebuilding a fusing unit, and I need to reset the web counter.  Thanks for any help

Answer:  This is really hard to find out because although it’s very similar to the Panasonic Version, the Pitney Bowes requires pushing one extra button. It’s a 3 button sequence with the Panny and then one more on the Pitney. If one of the Panny guys can tell us the other 3, and you get it figured out, it’s for your own good to write it down and tape that to the back cover, or inside the back cover, or wherever you know where to find it. I have one that I work on, and that’s what I did

Answer:  press User Preset, multi-copy key 3 and Original size ledger/A3 simultaneously. For counters press 7 and start

Answer:  Yes those 3 keys sound familiar. One of the other ones near the user preset, ledger keys, is also needed. Hopefully you can get it from here, let us know how it goes.

Question: Thanks, I’m going there today. Hopefully it works out ok.

Subject: Ricoh 2027 reset

Question: I had a bad fuser. I changed it for a good, but I am still getting the same Error SC545. How do I reset the error code?  Thanks

Answer:  Go into copy sp and clear mf device error sp 7 827

Answer:  With that model, just enter SP mode, and then turn the main power switch off and on. You should not have to do anything else to clear the code.

Answer:  To reset “A” level codes such as fuser codes, you must perform reset in service mode. SP-5-810

Answer:  Yes, 5-810 will reset this error, but straight from the official Ricoh manual, level A codes can be reset by just entering the SP modes, and powering the machine off/on.  This is copied right from manual to reset level A codes.  Enter SP mode, and then turn the main power switch off and on.  Why work harder when you can work smarter? u

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 Tech Tips for October 2007

Subject:  Sharp 2025

Question: I’m working on a Sharp sf-2025 for a local non-profit. It has a blinking Developer indicator, and I’m getting blank copies. Is there a simulation mode I can use to reset it and determine if all it needs is a developer change? I’m not getting any image on the drum when I do a panic stop and check. I do have a service manual to reference. Looking for some help getting to the heart of the problem. Thanks Much!!!

Answer:  The heart of the problem is that it reached PM time, and the PM counters were reset rather than doing the PM. It will have to have a full PM, including Drum and DV, and the steps need to be followed to the T from the service manual...anything else will lead to constant troubles, causing you to look like a noob. Good luck.

Answer:  That copier is unforgiving of shortcuts.

Answer:  The reason the developer light is blinking is because the copies are blank—fix that problem and everything should be fine. The developer light blinks when the drum patch sensor gets a reading that is out of range (like when there is NO patch!) Don’t reset the PM counters unless you do a PM– that’s a definite on this model.

Question: New drum, developer, charge grid and transfer wires—anything else? Thanks for the help!

Answer:  A blinking developer lamp actually indicates an F-2 error, whereas a steady lit lamp indicates that the developer counter reached 80K. Sometimes you can get away with fixing the blinking condition by cleaning the drum unit, but it is most likely a symptom of other issues related to the drum and/or developer. It would still be most prudent to plan on replacing all of these items as others have suggested. But for future reference, you should know that the blinking lamp is not a simple PM indicator.

Answer:  Although new up and lower oil rollers is a good idea, you are not doing the non-profit a favor by fixing this. It is too old and too picky of a machine for a guy to learn now. Find and trade in a good used machine and donate it to them if you really have them in your heart. If it is just another paying job, you will eat a lot on this. It was a great machine for guys who knew it really well when it was new, but it is not good now. LOW VOLUME WILL NOT MAKE THIS MORE RELIABLE. As a matter of fact, it will be less reliable if it is under 5000 per month and was good at 10,000 plus.

Answer:  Re-blinking DV run simulation 22-15 will tell you what the problem is. Most likely, you will then need to do 44-2 44-3 and 44-01 to fix.

Answer:  Do a by-the-book full PM, including drum change— no short cuts.

Subject:  Savin 9130 paper feed problem

Question: The paper is fed to the registration roller which doesn’t start turning until the paper buckles. Is there any adjustment for the timing of the registration clutch? I am getting copies with a fold in the paper.

Answer:  That is a classic relay clutch symptom— replace the relay clutch.

Question: The clutch has been replaced and is new. There is a delay between when the paper crosses the light barrier finger and the clutch engagement. How do I adjust the delay for a jam-free operation?

Answer:  Well, you probably need the reg clutch then, which is not quite as common, but not unusual. To answer your question, the reg code is 42.

Question: The registration clutch is the one I replaced. Adjusting the registration (Sim 42) has no effect on the folding. Which one is the relay clutch?  I ran simulation 45 to “adjust the buckle” but regardless of the setting from 0 to 15, the copies all have a 5/8” pleat 2 5/8” from the leading edge.

Answer:  Is the drum rotating?

Answer:  Sounds like the paper feed clutch or relay clutch (both in line in front of the reg clutch) is dirty/bad and overdriving the paper, causing the fold.

Answer:  The relay clutch is on the relay rollers, the rollers that push the paper to the Reg rollers. It’s a smaller square shaped clutch about 3 inches to the left of the reg clutch (looking from the back).

Subject:  Copystar 1810

Question: Can anyone tell me what it means when the display flashes “OF”. It will do it in the middle of a run, pause, and then continue where it left off after you press start. I cannot find anything in the service or operator manuals. Thanks

Answer:  Memory overflow usually occurs when there is a print system installed. Possible memory board problem.

Answer:  I think that the exit area is too full of paper.

Answer:  Most likely, the customer is copying from colored originals or there is a lot of picture image, not text, on the originals and memory is being overflowed. u

Tips appearing in this section are reprinted courtesy of Smarka! The Copier Tech’s Info Source.  Tips are randomly selected from submissions emailed to Smarka!  Smarka! and ENX Magazine make no guarantees as to the accuracy of tips presented here. Email your tips to Tips@smarka.com. All tips become public domain.

Tech Tips for September 2007            

Subject:  Copier lubricant

Question: I got a Minolta EP 3000 30 copies per minute.  Which is a good lubricant for the clutch motor, and for main drive motor?  And please give me an advice for general purpose lubricants to be used in copier.

Answer:  Minolta does not use any motors that require lubrication. Trying to lube them will most likely cause problems. I do not know what you mean by “clutch motor”.   The electro-magnetic clutches are not serviceable on this model and should never have lube applied to them as they rely on friction to work.  For general bushing lubrication, I use light oil - place bushing on thumb - fill with oil - press fore finger on top and squeeze to force oil into pores of metal bushing.  For moving parts, I use Triflow - a Teflon based lube.  It does not attract dirt and toner like oil based does.  For spring wrap clutches I use “NFO” (Non Fluid Oil) - sold by Ames.  It seems to have about 2-3 times the life of lithium grease and other lubes that I have tried.

Answer:  I learned the hard way that petroleum based lubricants will degrade the strength of plastics. Now I try to use mostly silicone based lubricants. Not sure what clutches you are referring to, but the kind with the friction plates shouldn’t be lubed and only cleaned with contact cleaner. If they make noise you can put a tiny amount of grease on the shaft which might help, but if it gets inside the clutch you’ll have loads of trouble.

Answer:  I use astro glide.

Answer:  I use 10-30 oil HA HA just kidding. Replace all huds and pf roller, save problems later.

Answer:  WD40 works beauties in fuser roller mainly, then spraying all over gets rid of squeaks and buzzing. 

Answer:  When I was a beginner at servicing copiers I once tried to eliminate the squeaking in a BD-3110 developer unit with oil. I tend to overdo things and this was a doosey. The oil got into the developer and it started spitting out gooey black tar on the copies. I had to totally tear down the developer unit and clean everything out. Just recently another tech of ours tried to get the squeaking out of a Minolta AF-10 doc feeder by lubing everything with TriFlow. It weakened the plastic and it cracked all over the place. We ended up having to replace almost every plastic piece in it including the base frame.

Subject:  np-6230 copy quality

Question: I have a 6230 that has developed grey background on the top and bottom of page.  It looked like dirty optics, so I cleaned. Still I have the same problem. I tried all the usual things and am not sure if I still have some dirt on mirrors.  The service manual doesn’t cover how to correctly access all the mirrors.  The drum is new as of last April. The environment is very dirty. I hate to just start replacing parts on this old girl and the customer wants the copier saved if possible. Is there any ideas out there? Thanks.

Answer:  CHECK DEV.ROLLER

Answer:  You can narrow down the possibilities by printing some reduction/enlargements and seeing if the dark/light areas move.

Question: Dev roller is good.  I am still leaning towards one of the hidden mirrors. ??? Thanks

Answer:  Pull out the drum and you’ll see about a 1/2” gap above it.  Wrap the optics cloth around your spring hook and slide it up in there, you’ll feel the angled 6th mirror.  Go to the back of it and wipe forward.  Repeat a few times just to make sure, but don’t try to use your finger even if it will fit.  Canon missed their calling in the razor blade business.  I never understood how they could get blunt edged sheet metal to be so sharp.  Wait I think that model has a slit glass that pulls out from the front.  If so, pull that out and clean it first.

Question: I have removed the slit glass and tried from that angle.  I also tried to access it from the top with a thin metal ruler.  Either I can’t reach it or it is something else. I can reach the mirror directly above the drum with slit glass removed.  It’s the next one I’m not sure about. I suppose the cuts will heal eventually. Thanks

Answer: There are only 6 mirrors there.  The one directly above the drum was the one I thought you were having trouble with. Then there are the 4th and 5th mirrors under the lens box cover.  Both are visible.  I think that model also had a tool stored in the optics cavity that made it easier to get to the 5th mirror – an angled piece of metal with lamb-skin over the ends.  I don’t use those though because the adhesive breaks down from ozone and age and you end up wiping black goo onto the mirrors.  What a pain to clean them off.  Anyway if optics are clean and CQ is still dark on the edges, I would check to see when the exposure lamp was last changed.  They get dim around the ends (usually one end more than the other) as they get some age on them. If all else fails, you can pull the primary unit out of the drum and adjust the wire height on the dark end away a couple turns.  I would start with one full turn clockwise and check CQ.  Good luck and e-mail me if you need more info on this box and I’ll toss you a manual. Have a great weeken.  Oops I can’t read.  Guess you’ve already got the manual.  And if both sides are dark, corona adjust want help.  Check the lamp.  You may even be able to just clean it with 99.9 if it’s such a dirty environment. Good luck

Answer:  You need to really take a close look at the developer/mag roller. These models were notorious for having toner build up on the sleeve and causing gray and uneven copies. You need to wipe it down with a dry cloth to see if you can see the black build up. If there is a build up then just scrub it with Alcohol. Good Luck. u

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